Subject	Please keep in mind that all of our email exchanges will
Posted by	Ash's Z on September 06, 2008 at 11:55 PM
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In Reply To	Extortion? Please, I merely requested that you compensate posted by phillyz on September 06, 2008 at 11:13 PM
Message	be posted. It will be very clear to everyone what exactly has been going on. You might want to spend some time reading through those emails to see just how far I went to find a solution as well as how irrational and unrealistic you and your demands have been. The bottom line is this, and I'll put it out there right now as it is the red herring in your argument: NGK PFR6B-11B plugs in an engine producing ~550RWHP and ~500RWTQ are plenty cool enough to prevent issue. These plugs are not going to result in the exhaust valves burning up - that will only happen by way of a lean fuel mixture, which is the real issue. But you even validated that the tune I put in your car is running well within safe mixture range so it is not the tune that caused it to run lean - there was some other factor involved causing the lean condition that resulted in one exhaust valve in cylinder #5 and #6 to fail. You also did not install the wideband O2 system you already had in your possession prior to taking the car to the track, which I heavily advised you to do far before I even tuned the car. You have conversated with people unknown to myself and have somehow led yourself to believe that these plugs were the culprit - when it all comes out onto the forum for us all to see, you are going to have to prove that the 6B-11B plugs are too hot and why hundreds of other Z's, many making more power and torque than yours, haven't had an issue with them..... I still think the lean condition was a result of the fuel sloshing away from the pump pickup at launch and starving the system of fuel, resulting in the lean condition... It is the onyl thing that makes any sense at this point. [ ashspecz.com ] [ agpowers@bellsouth.net ] Enthusiasts soon understand each other. --W. Irving. Are you an enthusiast? If you are out to describe the truth, leave elegance to the tailor. Albert Einstein
Follow Ups	VTCs and all you want/need to know, +++ - Ash's Z 07:42:07 09/06/08 Are you going to be selling this? - na300zx (OH) 07:59:09 09/06/08 very good write up ash! it makes perfect sense (n/m) - LaRose 08:15:15 09/06/08 Re: VTCs and all you want/need to know, +++ - zbest1 09:07:20 09/06/08 ok ..great ..now solve the annoying double wipe of - The Devils Z 09:10:07 09/06/08 no way, thats the best feature of the car (n/m) - Rickytl (ma) 09:15:26 09/06/08 I'm still a little sleepy so I hope that was sarcasm. (n/m) - Musashi Sword 09:22:44 09/06/08 Solved it on Z-Lab. - Dallas DamonZ 09:23:43 09/06/08 IBbernieindeed (n/m) - zgene4 09:54:38 09/06/08 write up besides this ? - The Devils Z 11:56:08 09/06/08 what is this Z-lab stuff that you post about every now . - upcominZ_(NOLA) 12:01:06 09/06/08 ... - zgene4 12:18:43 09/06/08 awesome, great post (n/m) - John@z1 09:36:48 09/06/08 this is only for engines with upgraded valvetrain? - FuerGrissa 10:05:03 09/06/08 After awhile most get it. (n/m) - Seb (specialty-Z) 00:23:53 09/07/08 I was told by a local Z tech here that the Cam Gears - itsghoZt 10:22:05 09/06/08 *the 90-93 gears (n/m) - itsghoZt 10:23:30 09/06/08 All of the VTCs have a pressed-in backplate. In fact, - Ash's Z 18:26:46 09/06/08 When will these be on the market?How much will they cost? - boost baby 10:23:47 09/06/08 They are, link inside - 91Z32TT 11:52:32 09/06/08 Not the same thing. - John B. (NJ) 14:38:45 09/06/08 Pretty soon. Around $300 for the pair.. - Ash's Z 18:30:49 09/06/08 Re: VTCs and all you want/need to know, +++ - plower 10:23:52 09/06/08 Very informative...Thanks!! (n/m) - sak01 10:28:13 09/06/08 for sho (n/m) - 300znick 10:55:39 09/06/08 interesting - aliaZ 12:43:29 09/06/08 2nd...how's you make the larger pieces? (n/m) - lazer(AK) 13:16:25 09/06/08 I purchased some 1144 CRS barstock and cut out the thrust - Ash's Z 18:23:55 09/06/08 well done (n/m) - aliaZ 22:28:56 09/06/08 Here is a picture of one of the VTC gears for Tyler, which - Ash's Z 22:58:41 09/06/08 Nice work Ash..... - jspeckid 12:51:24 09/06/08 Simply groundbreaking! LOL - phillyz 13:26:11 09/06/08 I dont get it. - John B. (NJ) 14:26:00 09/06/08 Check the link. Someone has already figured out a majority - phillyz 15:50:44 09/06/08 I did read it. Still dont see anything comical. - John B. (NJ) 16:15:56 09/06/08 As am I. (n/m) - phillyz 16:17:14 09/06/08 I told you it was comical. (n/m) - phillyz 06:31:56 09/07/08 I still didnt laugh at all. - John B. (NJ) 14:17:44 09/07/08 Nice info but the easy fix is... - DVDBURN (MD) 13:29:52 09/06/08 you're joking, right? - aliaZ 13:39:00 09/06/08 the VTC "elimination" kit - Russell@Z1 14:44:45 09/06/08 lol (n/m) - eyagel (Houston) 18:10:07 09/06/08 i don't think that fixes the problem (n/m) - ztunerz 18:40:42 09/06/08 Give it a shot, let me know the results... - tyler@boostpro.net 12:47:08 09/07/08 I can assure you Ash, you are confused about the VTC >> - LitlElvis 14:28:41 09/06/08 I Guess even though I already clearly stated in my last - Ash's Z 18:11:53 09/06/08 You guess correctly >>> - LitlElvis 23:39:41 09/06/08 woo hoo part 1! can't wait for part 2 :D (n/m) - ghostinator (fl) 23:54:22 09/06/08 Fair enough. Although my initial reaction here is to lash - Ash's Z 00:27:57 09/07/08 Not bashing his product? - DVDBURN (MD) 02:32:13 09/07/08 Interesting translation, but I never said any of the things - Ash's Z 03:20:49 09/07/08 One piece of popcorn left. - DVDBURN (MD) 04:53:51 09/07/08 Red Herring..... (n/m) - Ash's Z 17:49:52 09/07/08 once again, trying to undercut some one else's product - Halo Z 14:42:28 09/06/08 Huge 2nd!!! I'll also be posting within the next week, to - phillyz 16:02:23 09/06/08 Sorry to hear - SeedyROM 16:10:23 09/06/08 Sounds like you've been there. I don't really want to do it, - phillyz 16:13:20 09/06/08 some of us have long memory's and don't forget the - Halo Z 17:17:48 09/06/08 Re: Sounds like you've been there. I don't really want to do it, - SeedyROM 17:49:35 09/06/08 You already spilled the beans...you might as well post it. (n/m) - John B. (NJ) 16:19:15 09/06/08 There is a lot of information and many facts that need to be - phillyz 17:13:17 09/06/08 You are going - Ash's Z 21:19:06 09/06/08 Ash, please contact me about my Massives/ducts - jspeckid 22:11:57 09/06/08 They're on their way. :) (n/m) - Ash's Z 22:46:12 09/06/08 Extortion? Please, I merely requested that you compensate - phillyz 23:13:39 09/06/08 Please keep in mind that all of our email exchanges will - Ash's Z 23:55:48 09/06/08 I know what the emails said. You simply danced around all - phillyz 01:12:25 09/07/08 Your mistake was simple. Letting Ash tune your car. - DVDBURN (MD) 03:21:16 09/07/08 thats a little over the top - dpjax 07:11:47 09/07/08 Let's just get this over with, no it wasn't just the plugs. - phillyz 01:01:50 09/07/08 Please learn how to read a dynochart. The mix was 12.23 - Ash's Z 01:50:29 09/07/08 Email: 4/25/2008 (My initial reply to his request) - Ash's Z 01:51:28 09/07/08 Tony's reply 4/25/2008 - Ash's Z 01:52:39 09/07/08 My reply, 4/26/2008 (working out details on tuning) - Ash's Z 01:55:02 09/07/08 Tony's reply, 4/28/2008(clarifying that this isn't PINKS HU) - Ash's Z 01:56:14 09/07/08 My reply, 2/29/2008 (adjusting the offer) - Ash's Z 01:57:26 09/07/08 Tony's reply: 4/30/2008 (clarifying the tuning) - Ash's Z 01:58:25 09/07/08 My reply, 4/30/2008 (adjusted tuning price offer) - Ash's Z 01:59:40 09/07/08 Tony's Reply, 6/10/2008 - Ash's Z 02:02:17 09/07/08 My reply, 6/10/2008 - Ash's Z 02:03:02 09/07/08 TONY's reply, 7/12/2008 - The car was run at the track - Ash's Z 02:05:22 09/07/08 Nixit / Arnel - is 5 gallons of race fuel sufficient to - The Devils Z 07:07:21 09/07/08 Hi Dee! No it wasn't the fuel sloshing back upon launching - phillyz 07:21:57 09/07/08 Tony - I have no problems with you and no issues with - The Devils Z 07:41:50 09/07/08 Dee, FWIW 5 gallons is actually a bit more than a 1/4 tank. (n/m) - Barry (NJ) 22:24:27 09/07/08 dooh Bart :) (n/m) - The Devils Z 07:44:14 09/08/08 Sorry Dee, I have no fuel pressure experience, >> - Arnel(z32racing.com) 07:43:08 09/07/08 thanks Arnel and agreed / ditto on the vitals ..... (n/m) - The Devils Z 09:57:35 09/07/08 in my experience - aliaZ 12:39:08 09/07/08 My reply, 7/15/2008 - Ash's Z 02:07:36 09/07/08 Tony's Reply, 7/15/2008 - Ash's Z 02:08:28 09/07/08 Additional email fron Tony, 7/17/2008 - Ash's Z 02:10:55 09/07/08 My reply, 7/18/2008, - Ash's Z 02:11:56 09/07/08 Second reply to Tony, 7/19/2008 response to 7/15/2008 email - Ash's Z 02:14:05 09/07/08 Tony's reply, 7/29/2008 - Ash's Z 02:15:35 09/07/08 Tony's 2nd email, 8/1/2008 - Ash's Z 02:16:26 09/07/08 My reply, 8/5/2008 - Ash's Z 02:17:23 09/07/08 Tony's reply, 8/10/2008 - Ash's Z 02:17:59 09/07/08 My reply, 8/18/2008 - Ash's Z 02:20:15 09/07/08 Tony's reply, 8/14/2008 - Ash's Z 02:21:16 09/07/08 Additional email from Tony, 8/18/2008 - Ash's Z 02:22:19 09/07/08 And one final email from Ton, 8/26/2008 - Ash's Z 02:22:57 09/07/08 My final reply: today - Ash's Z 02:23:37 09/07/08 did you have... - tyler@boostpro.net 15:55:20 09/07/08 oooooooohhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh goody! *grabs popcorn* - vorpalZ 23:07:28 09/06/08 What did you do to his car Halo Z? (n/m) - dpjax 19:20:32 09/06/08 lol (n/m) - SeedyROM 19:28:47 09/06/08 You know who I was talking to. ;-) (n/m) - phillyz 20:49:15 09/06/08 W3rd (n/m) - Kez43 22:36:53 09/06/08 awesome, where's that water pump? :D (n/m) - ghostinator (fl) 22:39:06 09/06/08 The real story: VTCs and all you want/need to know - LitlElvis 05:16:11 09/07/08 Bravo, well played. (n/m) - BigTDogg (MA) 06:29:25 09/07/08 OMG - Sad Ash, very sad :-( (n/m) - phillyz 06:35:38 09/07/08 How's that bandwagon doing for you? I can barely see you. (n/m) - Ash's Z 19:44:26 09/07/08 Doing just fine. Thanks for asking. - phillyz 05:37:24 09/08/08 Thanks for cleaning up on isle 5, lol. - DVDBURN (MD) 09:58:41 09/07/08 Can't beat the time, effort, and testing you've done! - apudapus 10:33:30 09/07/08 This would explain why he likes springs so much: - Hiratsuka0689 (ATL) 15:57:25 09/07/08 It is also very likely the reason he used a stiffer spring - Ash's Z 23:28:55 09/07/08 nice (n/m) - aliaZ 10:54:03 09/07/08 I have never been more glad I don't have rattling VTCs, lol (n/m) - LJZTT 15:39:30 09/07/08 Hi Brett, - Ash's Z 17:26:55 09/07/08 It's easier if I just show give you a link - LitlElvis 18:18:11 09/07/08 OK, Brett. I'm really getting tired of the "moving target" - Ash's Z 19:10:14 09/07/08 Apparently you're not reading my other posts, so - LitlElvis 20:58:37 09/07/08 Thankyou for directly answering my post. - Ash's Z 22:56:39 09/07/08 Whatever Ash, time and testing will reveal the truth. - LitlElvis 00:09:13 09/08/08 Not the response I was expecting. - Ash's Z 01:10:36 09/08/08 Bookmark worthy - SeedyROM 19:23:22 09/07/08 You know, Ryan, I can appreciate your comment. - Ash's Z 19:37:30 09/07/08 Bookmark worthy Indeed - Z_spec 23:26:22 09/07/08 3rd. (n/m) - immortaliZed 07:55:29 09/08/08
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